Increasingly doing the rounds in the lead-up to Britain’s EU referendum is a quote by Churchill which it is claimed he said to Parliament on 11 May 1953 when he was Britain’s Prime Minster.
The quote or variants of it, usually depicted alongside a photo of Churchill, is being heavily promoted on social media such as Twitter and Facebook, and quoted in readers comments in multiple newspapers and blogs, usually by UKIP supporters.
The quote is being used to prove that Churchill would never have supported Britain’s membership of the EU, and that if he were alive now, he would be against the concept of today’s European Union and vote for Brexit in June’s referendum.
This is what’s claimed Churchill said in Parliament in 1953, during his second term in office as Prime Minister:
“We have our own dream and our own task. We are with Europe, but not of it. We are linked but not combined. We are interested and associated but not absorbed. If Britain must choose between Europe and the open sea, she must always choose the open sea.”The problem with this quote is that it’s a deception. Brexit supporters have fabricated it by ‘stitching’ together two different quotes by Churchill, said by him at different times and in different contexts.
The authors of this ‘stitch up’ have then falsely claimed that Churchill made this announcement in Parliament in 1953 as a reason for Britain not to join the emerging European Community.
In this way, Brexit supporters have posthumously ‘recruited’ Churchill as a backer of Britain leaving the EU in the forthcoming referendum.
Duplicity
The first four sentences of the ‘quote’ were not said by Churchill in Parliament in 1953, but written by him 23 years earlier, in February 1930, for America’s Saturday Evening Post.
Ironically, the title of Churchill’s article in 1930 was ‘The United States of Europe’ – a concept which he passionately supported.
Churchill considered that a truly united Europe would be the antidote to war and the path to greater security and prosperity for the continent. This in turn would be of considerable value to Britain, wrote Churchill. His article was remarkably prescient, as it outlined a blueprint for today’s European Union.
Churchill concluded that, “the concept of a United States of Europe is right.” His article imagined a Europe without internal barriers or tariffs, or passports, or multiple currencies, which would enable the “free interchange of goods and services” and the free travel of people across the continent.
And the idea of “European unity” was not new. “Europe has known the days when Rumanians lived on the Tyne and Spaniards on the Danube as equal citizens of a single state,” wrote Churchill, reminding his American readers of the Roman Empire.
Added Churchill:
“Everywhere, in every age, in every area however wide, our every grouping of peoples however diverse, unity has made for strength and prosperity for all within its circle. Why should Europe fear unity?”
Empire
It’s from this article that Brexit supporters have taken four sentences and claimed that instead of 1930, Churchill spoke them to Parliament in 1953. He did not.
Let me put the quote into context by quoting the sentences that immediately preceded it:
“We are bound to further every honest and practical step to which the nations of Europe may make to reduce barriers which divide them and to nourish their common interests and their common welfare.
"We rejoice at every diminution of the internal tariffs and the martial armaments of Europe. We see nothing but good and hope in a richer, freer, more contented European commonality.
“But we have our own dream and our own task. We are with Europe, but not of it. We are linked, but not comprised. We are interested and associated, but not absorbed.”Churchill’s view in 1930 would be bound to change by the 1950s, by which time Europe had endured a second devastating world war and was desperate to avoid another. (More of that shortly).
Temper
“If Britain must choose between Europe and the open sea, she must always choose the open sea.”This was not said by Churchill after the war, but during the war, on the eve of the ‘D Day’ landings in Normandy that would eventually lead to victory over Nazi Germany. (Source: D-Day, the Battle for Normandy by Antony Beevor)
The French leader, Charles de Gaulle, was flown from Algiers to London to be briefed on the battle plans called ‘Operation Overlord’.
But Churchill became exasperated with de Gaulle’s apparent obstinacy and brinkmanship, and wanted to demonstrate his strong loyalty to US President, Franklin Roosevelt, without whose help Britain - and Europe - would be lost.
Churchill’s temper with de Gaulle flared up and he demanded to know how the British could act separately from the United States. During the raging row, Churchill bellowed to de Gaulle:
“We are going to liberate Europe, but it is because the Americans are with us. So get this quite clear. Every time we have to decide between Europe and the open sea, it is always the open sea we shall choose. Every time I have to choose between you and Roosevelt, I will always choose Roosevelt.”De Gaulle accepted this was bound to be the case, and tempers calmed down during the ensuing lunch (with fine wine). Churchill raised his glass and said, “To de Gaulle, who never accepted defeat.” And de Gaulle raised his and said, “To Britain, to victory, to Europe.”
For sure, the two of them had a mercurial relationship. De Gaulle once famously and loftily remarked:
“When I am right, I get angry. Churchill gets angry when he is wrong. So we were often very angry with each other.”Brexit supporters should not have taken a quote by Churchill yelled in anger during the war and falsely claimed that he said it as part of a considered speech to Parliament eight years after the war had ended.
In fact, the entire quote now being promoted by Brexit supporters to claim Churchill’s support for their cause is nothing other than a misleading concoction.
Hansard
So why haven’t Brexit supporters instead quoted what Churchill actually did say to Parliament on 11 May 1953? After all, it’s easy to verify as it’s available online in the edition of Hansard for that day:
"Where do we stand? We are not members of the European Defence Community, nor do we intend to be merged in a Federal European system. We feel we have a special relation to both. This can be expressed by prepositions, by the preposition 'with' but not 'of' - we are with them, but not of them. We have our own Commonwealth and Empire."In 1950, Churchill explained to Parliament why he didn't “at present” foresee Britain being,“a member of a Federal Union of Europe.” This was primarily because of Britain’s position, “at the centre of the British Empire and Commonwealth”, and, “our fraternal association with the United States of America.”
It was clear that Churchill’s opposition was not a principled one, but a practical one.
Crucially, in answering the question ‘Are you prepared to part with any degree of national sovereignty in any circumstances for the sake of a larger synthesis?’,Churchill responded:
‘We are prepared to consider and, if convinced, to accept the abrogation of national sovereignty, provided that we are satisfied with the conditions and the safeguards… national sovereignty is not inviolable, and it may be resolutely diminished for the sake of all men in all the lands finding their way home together.’Everything was to change during the course of the 1950s and 1960s, when it became clear that Britain’s Empire had finished and its Commonwealth was diminished.
Speech
Four months later Churchill gave his last speech on Europe at Central Hall, Westminster. He welcomed the formation of a ‘common market’ by the six, provided that, “the whole of free Europe will have access.” He added, “we genuinely wish to join.”
(Source: Winston S. Churchill: His Complete Speeches Vol. 8 page 8681)
In August 1961, Churchill wrote:
“I think that the Government are right to apply to join the European Economic Community...”Churchill supported the ‘welding’ of West Germany, France, Italy, Belgium, Holland and Luxembourg into ‘an organic whole’, which he described as a ‘happy outcome’ of the European Economic Community. Churchill added:
"We might well play a great part in these developments to the profit of not only ourselves, but of our European friends also."
(Source: Long Sunset by Sir Anthony Montague Brown, pages 273-274)And in 1963, just two years before he died, Churchill wrote:
“The future of Europe if Britain were to be excluded is black indeed.”
But Churchill’s grandson, Sir Nicholas Soames, launched a scathing attack against this use of the war leader’s words and images in support of Brexit. He said that they had no right to use his grandfather in this way and suggested that Churchill’s views would never have aligned with their campaign.
Sir Nicholas told The Independent newspaper:
“Winston Churchill was a profound believer in the values of European co-operation and the need for it, and I am very disappointed to see these people twisting his views to suit their own ends.”Contrary to what Brexit supporters might tell you, Churchill is recognised as one of the founders of the European Union, and has a building named after him at the European Parliament in Strasbourg. (I know; I've been there.)
Fortunately, truth usually prevails in the end.
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Perfectly researched post. We did something similair but you've provided far more detail and context. Thank you.
ReplyDeleteIt is very well researched, but we can't escape the fact that he said those words. You cannot say for sure what he mean't by those words or what he would have made of DeGaulle blocking Britain.
ReplyDeleteI do strongly feel that given the undemocratic way the EU operates and it over regulates, he is not likely to have supported. Further given the way Britain held on to post war regulations and Germany didn't, would prove to him that free and open competition is the way to go.
The World Trade Organisation has ensured free trade amongst it member, so has knocked down a lot of trade barriers. Why is the EU hell bent on unlimited free movement within the EU, when they allow Lichtenstein free access to the single market and it only allows around 75 people.
I reposted that speech because it was in a newspaper cutting, so I was not "stitching" anything together. However, vote remain are using tactics as unjustified as getting external organisation and presidents to make their case. As we have seen, none of these have any track record of being correct and yet the public is supposed to be taken to accept this. Didn't Christine Lagarde the IMF chief have to eat her warnings to George Osbourne ?
Thank you, but the context of when and how Churchill made the comments that were fabricated into one complete quote by Brexiteers matters. Clearly, it is not acceptable that they misused Churchill quotes in the way they did.
DeleteI cannot agree with your presumption that the EU is undemocratic. It is in many ways more democratic than our system in the UK, where we still have an unelected second chamber, and in the last General Election, almost 65% of those who voted did not choose the Conservative government that ended up winning office.
The EU does not rule us. With our 27 allies, we help to run the EU. EU laws can only be passed by the elected governments of the EU (sitting in the EU Council) together with the directly elected European Parliament. In the last 43 years our Parliament in Westminster debated and agreed to all the EEC/EU treaties. Not once were any changes to our membership of the EEC/EC/EU ever imposed upon us, and neither could they be.
According to recent research by Vote Watch, Britain supported over 97% of EU adopted laws in the last 12 years. It's true that we don't always get our way in the Council, that happens in a democracy. But we have supported the vast majority of Council decisions.
Many people erroneously think that the Commission has the real power in the EU. They do not. The Commission has zero authority to pass laws. Their agenda, including proposals for legislation, is set by the EU Council. The European Parliament elects the Commission President, and can accept or reject the appointment of Commissioners. Furthermore, the European Parliament has the power to dismiss the entire Commission.
I have been to the European Parliament and witnessed for myself democracy at work.
We cannot know what Churchill would think of today's European Union, but he was a strong advocate of a United States of Europe.
Let me put it this Churchill's 1930 and 1953 quotes are perfectly coherent with his world view of the role of Britain in relation to France and Germany, hence Europe. He was after all the author of the celebrated 'MARLBOROUGH his Life and Times' and had a clear strategic view of the countries in question which served him well in assessing Germany well in 1940 which I am sure would serve him well in assessing Germany today in relation to the Brexit debate.
ReplyDeleteChurchill was a passionate proponent of the Union of European countries, and supported Macmillan's application in 1961 for the UK to join the EEC. See more in my other article: Churchill.EU-Rope.com
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